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		<title>By: Why Car Salesmen Think its Okay to Screw you, And what you can do about it! &#171; Hot Cars News, Pictures, Videos and more</title>
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		<dc:creator>Why Car Salesmen Think its Okay to Screw you, And what you can do about it! &#171; Hot Cars News, Pictures, Videos and more</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Feb 2010 08:00:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: DB</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jan 2010 17:52:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Listen, all of you, just listen.  To Jason P:  Sorry for knocking your head off buddy, haha I hope the salesman who cracked your skull open bought a car with the commission he made off your ass.  I have been selling cars for a while, and I am here to say that honestly, people that work on commission get paid based on WHAT THEY SELL THE PRODUCT FOR!!!  Bottom line is...do some research and then call to see if they can do that deal.  I can&#039;t tell you how many times I get a mysterious phone call from an educated buyer and then do the deal on the terms he/she proposed.  It makes it easier on the salesman to just do the deal with no haggle, yea it might not be the biggest commission, but in the end its not what you make on each car individually, but, how many cars you can put over the curb in one month.  With the new ways to research prices, finance rates, and rebates...if you dont do this research YOU SHOULD PAY STICKER.  It is up to you to research before you buy and thats why often times I ask the customer: &quot;Have you done any online research on the vehicle?&quot;  This clarifies whether the buyer is educated, if not...sorry buddy but I am gonna charge more.  Also, I work for a domestic brand...80% of my customers have some type of employee or retiree discount which SETS THE PRICE FROM THE MANUFACTURER.  Most cases I can give the customer the price and the VIN and they can call headquarters themselves to get the price again for reassurance sake.  Also, EVERY BRAND HAS SOMETHING CALLED CSI OR CUSTOMER SERVICE INDEX.  This is a survey sent to the customer within a couple weeks of their purchase.  If these numbers are bad, or you get bad ratings, the dealer will lose money and the salesman will lose money and sooner or later probably lose their job. 

DO YOUR HOMEWORK PEOPLE...WERE NOT OUT TO ROB YOU...THE STICKER PRICE IS A FAIR PRICE...THATS WHY ITS ON THE WINDOW...ANYTHING LOWER IS A DEAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Listen, all of you, just listen.  To Jason P:  Sorry for knocking your head off buddy, haha I hope the salesman who cracked your skull open bought a car with the commission he made off your ass.  I have been selling cars for a while, and I am here to say that honestly, people that work on commission get paid based on WHAT THEY SELL THE PRODUCT FOR!!!  Bottom line is&#8230;do some research and then call to see if they can do that deal.  I can&#8217;t tell you how many times I get a mysterious phone call from an educated buyer and then do the deal on the terms he/she proposed.  It makes it easier on the salesman to just do the deal with no haggle, yea it might not be the biggest commission, but in the end its not what you make on each car individually, but, how many cars you can put over the curb in one month.  With the new ways to research prices, finance rates, and rebates&#8230;if you dont do this research YOU SHOULD PAY STICKER.  It is up to you to research before you buy and thats why often times I ask the customer: &#8220;Have you done any online research on the vehicle?&#8221;  This clarifies whether the buyer is educated, if not&#8230;sorry buddy but I am gonna charge more.  Also, I work for a domestic brand&#8230;80% of my customers have some type of employee or retiree discount which SETS THE PRICE FROM THE MANUFACTURER.  Most cases I can give the customer the price and the VIN and they can call headquarters themselves to get the price again for reassurance sake.  Also, EVERY BRAND HAS SOMETHING CALLED CSI OR CUSTOMER SERVICE INDEX.  This is a survey sent to the customer within a couple weeks of their purchase.  If these numbers are bad, or you get bad ratings, the dealer will lose money and the salesman will lose money and sooner or later probably lose their job. </p>
<p>DO YOUR HOMEWORK PEOPLE&#8230;WERE NOT OUT TO ROB YOU&#8230;THE STICKER PRICE IS A FAIR PRICE&#8230;THATS WHY ITS ON THE WINDOW&#8230;ANYTHING LOWER IS A DEAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: WeigueAssuslY</title>
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		<dc:creator>WeigueAssuslY</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 10:56:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your welcome everyone,
My PC worked slowly, many errors. Please, help me to fix errors on my PC. 
I used Windows XP.
With best regards,
WeigueAssuslY</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your welcome everyone,<br />
My PC worked slowly, many errors. Please, help me to fix errors on my PC.<br />
I used Windows XP.<br />
With best regards,<br />
WeigueAssuslY</p>
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		<title>By: Your Honest Car Salesman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Your Honest Car Salesman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 17:57:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just read your &quot;Famous Carsalesman Crap&quot;. This post is absolutely rediculous, this is BS stereo typing that has kept yourself in a position against carsalesman. 

I have been in sales for many years and in the past two years have been selling highline vehicles. You think you can just classify a couple arguments carsalemen have that, I for one, never see myself saying.

We never argue that there is no profit to be made, I will tell you up front that I am making a profit but will make sure the buyer and seller are both happy with the profit made. You need to take a basic Economics class to understand that.

The MSRP is set by the automaker so don&#039;t give the salesman the well I know what the invoice is crap. The invoice IS the price which the dealership pays for the vehicle (not the consumer) and the MSRP is what the Manufacture&#039;s retail price should be in a particular market. 

Will you pay MSRP for a vehicle? No, not unless it is a specialty vehicle that has a high demand and a low supply. This is where incentives come in, if they are a domestic company and the MSRP is $10,000 higher then the market says it should be then you will see a larger rebate or discount. If your company is a highline then most likely they are very close to the actual market value so don&#039;t expect to pay invoice.

We are honest men and woman who are trying to make a living just like yourself. The bottom line of working is to make money. The best carsaleman in the world know you can not take all of someones money and send them out in a car they do not like. Otherwise, they will never return to buy a vehicle from you (which referrals are what makes a Salesman longterm profits). You need to find a balance of a good profit for the salesman and the right car for the buyer and you will have a very good relationship that won&#039;t make you look like the A*hole that some people feel they must be when purchasing a vehicle.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just read your &#8220;Famous Carsalesman Crap&#8221;. This post is absolutely rediculous, this is BS stereo typing that has kept yourself in a position against carsalesman. </p>
<p>I have been in sales for many years and in the past two years have been selling highline vehicles. You think you can just classify a couple arguments carsalemen have that, I for one, never see myself saying.</p>
<p>We never argue that there is no profit to be made, I will tell you up front that I am making a profit but will make sure the buyer and seller are both happy with the profit made. You need to take a basic Economics class to understand that.</p>
<p>The MSRP is set by the automaker so don&#8217;t give the salesman the well I know what the invoice is crap. The invoice IS the price which the dealership pays for the vehicle (not the consumer) and the MSRP is what the Manufacture&#8217;s retail price should be in a particular market. </p>
<p>Will you pay MSRP for a vehicle? No, not unless it is a specialty vehicle that has a high demand and a low supply. This is where incentives come in, if they are a domestic company and the MSRP is $10,000 higher then the market says it should be then you will see a larger rebate or discount. If your company is a highline then most likely they are very close to the actual market value so don&#8217;t expect to pay invoice.</p>
<p>We are honest men and woman who are trying to make a living just like yourself. The bottom line of working is to make money. The best carsaleman in the world know you can not take all of someones money and send them out in a car they do not like. Otherwise, they will never return to buy a vehicle from you (which referrals are what makes a Salesman longterm profits). You need to find a balance of a good profit for the salesman and the right car for the buyer and you will have a very good relationship that won&#8217;t make you look like the A*hole that some people feel they must be when purchasing a vehicle.</p>
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		<title>By: rob</title>
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		<dc:creator>rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2009 19:53:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>seriously... this is probably the worst post ever. i have owned 3 cars in my life. never once did i get haggled like this except when i bought private party. the people trying to get rid of their cars are the worst ones, lying pieces of shit... the profit on a 20,000 car is like maybe 2000 tops at msrp.now when people haggle and come in wanting a car at the price of what the dealer pays... let me tell you that pisses me off. no paycheck for the guy helping you out. i work in sales at a gym, the 7 day passes for the 300 pounders are  a joke, they dont use them and then 2 months later come back with an order from the doctor that they are too fat. and still wont sign up!!!! its stupid...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>seriously&#8230; this is probably the worst post ever. i have owned 3 cars in my life. never once did i get haggled like this except when i bought private party. the people trying to get rid of their cars are the worst ones, lying pieces of shit&#8230; the profit on a 20,000 car is like maybe 2000 tops at msrp.now when people haggle and come in wanting a car at the price of what the dealer pays&#8230; let me tell you that pisses me off. no paycheck for the guy helping you out. i work in sales at a gym, the 7 day passes for the 300 pounders are  a joke, they dont use them and then 2 months later come back with an order from the doctor that they are too fat. and still wont sign up!!!! its stupid&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Apr 2009 17:10:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The bottom line is that if dealers were not trying to get the customer for all he was worth, they would simple fire all the salesmen and slap a reasonable price on the car.  This would save everyone a lot of time and effort and eliminate an unnecessary salesman&#039;s commission.

With the internet, today most folks don&#039;t need a salesman to explain options or generally hold their hand.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The bottom line is that if dealers were not trying to get the customer for all he was worth, they would simple fire all the salesmen and slap a reasonable price on the car.  This would save everyone a lot of time and effort and eliminate an unnecessary salesman&#8217;s commission.</p>
<p>With the internet, today most folks don&#8217;t need a salesman to explain options or generally hold their hand.</p>
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		<title>By: Large Women</title>
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		<dc:creator>Large Women</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Mar 2009 14:46:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Big Girls are my favorite and I want to taste all of them!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Big Girls are my favorite and I want to taste all of them!</p>
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		<title>By: Attestefenirl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Attestefenirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Feb 2009 09:28:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello. 
I&#039;m new there
Nice forum!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello.<br />
I&#8217;m new there<br />
Nice forum!</p>
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		<title>By: jobbercypr</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Feb 2009 20:54:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good time, it&#039;s a job offer. (Sorry if I post it in wrong place)

Cyprus company is looking for a Campaign Executive to assist with fundraising, presentations, various administrative and sales management duties. If you have fundraising and sales experience, plus intermediate computer knowledge, this job is for you! Apply with us today! 

All applicants applying for U.S. job openings must be authorized to work in the United States. All applicants applying for European job openings must be authorized to work in European Union.

We are growing advertising and consulting company offering job opportunities ranging from executive and administrative assistants to customer service representatives, receptionists and general support.

NOTICE: we do not provide relocation, this position is online based, we are using progressive online administrative system. You will have to use a special online training program for free.

Requirements and skills:
1.       Higher Education/College 
2.       1 + Sales/Management (desired but optional) 
3.       Strong communicative skills 
4.       Must have MS Office installed (MS Word) 
5.       Must have citizenship or Work Permit 
6.       Adult age

Education and Experience:
1.       Internet/MS Office/Outlook
2.       Sales/Management/Marketing courses (desired)  

Hours:
Mon-Fri; 9:30am - 12:30pm

Apply for this job now or contact our online branch support for additional information: 

CV to e-mail job@mygogreens.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good time, it&#8217;s a job offer. (Sorry if I post it in wrong place)</p>
<p>Cyprus company is looking for a Campaign Executive to assist with fundraising, presentations, various administrative and sales management duties. If you have fundraising and sales experience, plus intermediate computer knowledge, this job is for you! Apply with us today! </p>
<p>All applicants applying for U.S. job openings must be authorized to work in the United States. All applicants applying for European job openings must be authorized to work in European Union.</p>
<p>We are growing advertising and consulting company offering job opportunities ranging from executive and administrative assistants to customer service representatives, receptionists and general support.</p>
<p>NOTICE: we do not provide relocation, this position is online based, we are using progressive online administrative system. You will have to use a special online training program for free.</p>
<p>Requirements and skills:<br />
1.       Higher Education/College<br />
2.       1 + Sales/Management (desired but optional)<br />
3.       Strong communicative skills<br />
4.       Must have MS Office installed (MS Word)<br />
5.       Must have citizenship or Work Permit<br />
6.       Adult age</p>
<p>Education and Experience:<br />
1.       Internet/MS Office/Outlook<br />
2.       Sales/Management/Marketing courses (desired)  </p>
<p>Hours:<br />
Mon-Fri; 9:30am &#8211; 12:30pm</p>
<p>Apply for this job now or contact our online branch support for additional information: </p>
<p>CV to e-mail <a href="mailto:job@mygogreens.com">job@mygogreens.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: lenkaalech</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Feb 2009 18:35:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the girl&#039;s name is Cinderella, but i haven&#039;t found any info about her. 
She either might have changed her name or she is out of the biz. 

This clip is worth the download. 
If you like skinny girls...this is the one! 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the girl&#8217;s name is Cinderella, but i haven&#8217;t found any info about her.<br />
She either might have changed her name or she is out of the biz. </p>
<p>This clip is worth the download.<br />
If you like skinny girls&#8230;this is the one!<br />
Enjoy&#8230;&#8230;</p>
<p>link: <a href="http://depositfiles.com/en/files/0q1liua5f" rel="nofollow">http://depositfiles.com/en/files/0q1liua5f</a></p>
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