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		<title>By: Doug</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jul 2010 21:58:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I second what JT Thompson says.  The gentleman who wrote this article is perpetuating myths that make car buyers viciously suspicious and car salesman want to kill themselves.  I have been selling cars for two months and have never been treated worse by people in my life than I have by some of my customers.  For one, yes, the average markup on a car is probably around 1000 dollars but the average price is around 25000.  that&#039;s a markup of four percent!  Do you know how much of a markup there is in a latte!  Furthermore, how many gallons of milk are sold compared to how many cars?  A lot more.  I guarantee the average grocery store brings in more revenue than the average car dealership.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I second what JT Thompson says.  The gentleman who wrote this article is perpetuating myths that make car buyers viciously suspicious and car salesman want to kill themselves.  I have been selling cars for two months and have never been treated worse by people in my life than I have by some of my customers.  For one, yes, the average markup on a car is probably around 1000 dollars but the average price is around 25000.  that&#8217;s a markup of four percent!  Do you know how much of a markup there is in a latte!  Furthermore, how many gallons of milk are sold compared to how many cars?  A lot more.  I guarantee the average grocery store brings in more revenue than the average car dealership.</p>
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		<title>By: J.T. Thompson</title>
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		<dc:creator>J.T. Thompson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 May 2010 19:36:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ohh I forgot profit and making money isnt a crime!!!!if that was true then ask our government why they take taxes out and we are left with net not gross and then after that charge another tax for every dollar you spend.....think about that before you toss rocks in a glass house</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ohh I forgot profit and making money isnt a crime!!!!if that was true then ask our government why they take taxes out and we are left with net not gross and then after that charge another tax for every dollar you spend&#8230;..think about that before you toss rocks in a glass house</p>
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		<title>By: J.T. Thompson</title>
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		<dc:creator>J.T. Thompson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 May 2010 19:34:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: J.T. Thompson</title>
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		<dc:creator>J.T. Thompson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 May 2010 19:33:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have worked for Chrysler for 7 yrs.!!! And when I read this article, I have to ask, has the guy telling these stories ever worked as a car salesman? or has he seen an original invoice to any vehicle? probably not!!!! On any new car purchase there is minimal profit.....to all customers find out the rebates on the particular vehicle you are want ting to purchase then ask for the invoice subtract from the invoice price not the msrp and there is your best price....and i work in the internet dept. which we price our vehicles 1-3% less than invoice minus rebates!!!if you dont believe me call me and i will be more than happy to prove it!!!!!!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have worked for Chrysler for 7 yrs.!!! And when I read this article, I have to ask, has the guy telling these stories ever worked as a car salesman? or has he seen an original invoice to any vehicle? probably not!!!! On any new car purchase there is minimal profit&#8230;..to all customers find out the rebates on the particular vehicle you are want ting to purchase then ask for the invoice subtract from the invoice price not the msrp and there is your best price&#8230;.and i work in the internet dept. which we price our vehicles 1-3% less than invoice minus rebates!!!if you dont believe me call me and i will be more than happy to prove it!!!!!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Bob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Apr 2010 22:49:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If the finance department at the dealership gets you to take a loan with them, then you probably overpaid.  Many car dealerships make their money with financing.  They &quot;shop&quot; their loans to big financial institutions and take a cut of the loan.  Essentially the bank has to charge a higher interest rate to you.

If this happened to you, then consider doing a car loan refinance.  It&#039;s fast, easy, and free.  No costs to apply and no car appraisal fees.  If you are paying more than 8% interest, then I&#039;d say give it a try.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the finance department at the dealership gets you to take a loan with them, then you probably overpaid.  Many car dealerships make their money with financing.  They &#8220;shop&#8221; their loans to big financial institutions and take a cut of the loan.  Essentially the bank has to charge a higher interest rate to you.</p>
<p>If this happened to you, then consider doing a car loan refinance.  It&#8217;s fast, easy, and free.  No costs to apply and no car appraisal fees.  If you are paying more than 8% interest, then I&#8217;d say give it a try.</p>
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		<title>By: tvc3</title>
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		<dc:creator>tvc3</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Mar 2010 16:43:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i am working 60 hours at 3 dollars below minimum and have not had a sale in 2 weeks...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i am working 60 hours at 3 dollars below minimum and have not had a sale in 2 weeks&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Why Car Salesmen Think its Okay to Screw you, And what you can do about it! &#171; Hot Cars News, Pictures, Videos and more</title>
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		<title>By: DB</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jan 2010 17:52:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Listen, all of you, just listen.  To Jason P:  Sorry for knocking your head off buddy, haha I hope the salesman who cracked your skull open bought a car with the commission he made off your ass.  I have been selling cars for a while, and I am here to say that honestly, people that work on commission get paid based on WHAT THEY SELL THE PRODUCT FOR!!!  Bottom line is...do some research and then call to see if they can do that deal.  I can&#039;t tell you how many times I get a mysterious phone call from an educated buyer and then do the deal on the terms he/she proposed.  It makes it easier on the salesman to just do the deal with no haggle, yea it might not be the biggest commission, but in the end its not what you make on each car individually, but, how many cars you can put over the curb in one month.  With the new ways to research prices, finance rates, and rebates...if you dont do this research YOU SHOULD PAY STICKER.  It is up to you to research before you buy and thats why often times I ask the customer: &quot;Have you done any online research on the vehicle?&quot;  This clarifies whether the buyer is educated, if not...sorry buddy but I am gonna charge more.  Also, I work for a domestic brand...80% of my customers have some type of employee or retiree discount which SETS THE PRICE FROM THE MANUFACTURER.  Most cases I can give the customer the price and the VIN and they can call headquarters themselves to get the price again for reassurance sake.  Also, EVERY BRAND HAS SOMETHING CALLED CSI OR CUSTOMER SERVICE INDEX.  This is a survey sent to the customer within a couple weeks of their purchase.  If these numbers are bad, or you get bad ratings, the dealer will lose money and the salesman will lose money and sooner or later probably lose their job. 

DO YOUR HOMEWORK PEOPLE...WERE NOT OUT TO ROB YOU...THE STICKER PRICE IS A FAIR PRICE...THATS WHY ITS ON THE WINDOW...ANYTHING LOWER IS A DEAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Listen, all of you, just listen.  To Jason P:  Sorry for knocking your head off buddy, haha I hope the salesman who cracked your skull open bought a car with the commission he made off your ass.  I have been selling cars for a while, and I am here to say that honestly, people that work on commission get paid based on WHAT THEY SELL THE PRODUCT FOR!!!  Bottom line is&#8230;do some research and then call to see if they can do that deal.  I can&#8217;t tell you how many times I get a mysterious phone call from an educated buyer and then do the deal on the terms he/she proposed.  It makes it easier on the salesman to just do the deal with no haggle, yea it might not be the biggest commission, but in the end its not what you make on each car individually, but, how many cars you can put over the curb in one month.  With the new ways to research prices, finance rates, and rebates&#8230;if you dont do this research YOU SHOULD PAY STICKER.  It is up to you to research before you buy and thats why often times I ask the customer: &#8220;Have you done any online research on the vehicle?&#8221;  This clarifies whether the buyer is educated, if not&#8230;sorry buddy but I am gonna charge more.  Also, I work for a domestic brand&#8230;80% of my customers have some type of employee or retiree discount which SETS THE PRICE FROM THE MANUFACTURER.  Most cases I can give the customer the price and the VIN and they can call headquarters themselves to get the price again for reassurance sake.  Also, EVERY BRAND HAS SOMETHING CALLED CSI OR CUSTOMER SERVICE INDEX.  This is a survey sent to the customer within a couple weeks of their purchase.  If these numbers are bad, or you get bad ratings, the dealer will lose money and the salesman will lose money and sooner or later probably lose their job. </p>
<p>DO YOUR HOMEWORK PEOPLE&#8230;WERE NOT OUT TO ROB YOU&#8230;THE STICKER PRICE IS A FAIR PRICE&#8230;THATS WHY ITS ON THE WINDOW&#8230;ANYTHING LOWER IS A DEAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: WeigueAssuslY</title>
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		<dc:creator>WeigueAssuslY</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 10:56:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Your Honest Car Salesman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Your Honest Car Salesman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 17:57:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just read your &quot;Famous Carsalesman Crap&quot;. This post is absolutely rediculous, this is BS stereo typing that has kept yourself in a position against carsalesman. 

I have been in sales for many years and in the past two years have been selling highline vehicles. You think you can just classify a couple arguments carsalemen have that, I for one, never see myself saying.

We never argue that there is no profit to be made, I will tell you up front that I am making a profit but will make sure the buyer and seller are both happy with the profit made. You need to take a basic Economics class to understand that.

The MSRP is set by the automaker so don&#039;t give the salesman the well I know what the invoice is crap. The invoice IS the price which the dealership pays for the vehicle (not the consumer) and the MSRP is what the Manufacture&#039;s retail price should be in a particular market. 

Will you pay MSRP for a vehicle? No, not unless it is a specialty vehicle that has a high demand and a low supply. This is where incentives come in, if they are a domestic company and the MSRP is $10,000 higher then the market says it should be then you will see a larger rebate or discount. If your company is a highline then most likely they are very close to the actual market value so don&#039;t expect to pay invoice.

We are honest men and woman who are trying to make a living just like yourself. The bottom line of working is to make money. The best carsaleman in the world know you can not take all of someones money and send them out in a car they do not like. Otherwise, they will never return to buy a vehicle from you (which referrals are what makes a Salesman longterm profits). You need to find a balance of a good profit for the salesman and the right car for the buyer and you will have a very good relationship that won&#039;t make you look like the A*hole that some people feel they must be when purchasing a vehicle.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just read your &#8220;Famous Carsalesman Crap&#8221;. This post is absolutely rediculous, this is BS stereo typing that has kept yourself in a position against carsalesman. </p>
<p>I have been in sales for many years and in the past two years have been selling highline vehicles. You think you can just classify a couple arguments carsalemen have that, I for one, never see myself saying.</p>
<p>We never argue that there is no profit to be made, I will tell you up front that I am making a profit but will make sure the buyer and seller are both happy with the profit made. You need to take a basic Economics class to understand that.</p>
<p>The MSRP is set by the automaker so don&#8217;t give the salesman the well I know what the invoice is crap. The invoice IS the price which the dealership pays for the vehicle (not the consumer) and the MSRP is what the Manufacture&#8217;s retail price should be in a particular market. </p>
<p>Will you pay MSRP for a vehicle? No, not unless it is a specialty vehicle that has a high demand and a low supply. This is where incentives come in, if they are a domestic company and the MSRP is $10,000 higher then the market says it should be then you will see a larger rebate or discount. If your company is a highline then most likely they are very close to the actual market value so don&#8217;t expect to pay invoice.</p>
<p>We are honest men and woman who are trying to make a living just like yourself. The bottom line of working is to make money. The best carsaleman in the world know you can not take all of someones money and send them out in a car they do not like. Otherwise, they will never return to buy a vehicle from you (which referrals are what makes a Salesman longterm profits). You need to find a balance of a good profit for the salesman and the right car for the buyer and you will have a very good relationship that won&#8217;t make you look like the A*hole that some people feel they must be when purchasing a vehicle.</p>
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